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Looking for a canner that can be used on your glass or ceramic stovetop or cooker?  Read below to find out why you can't find one, and what the alternatives are!  Scroll down this page for more information, and with NO obligation to buy, just click on the links in the Amazon boxes on the left!

 

Canning on Glass Stovetops and Canners for Glass and Ceramic Stoves
updated for 2009

If you have a glass or ceramic stovetop, you may have heard that you should use a flat-bottomed canner, but you have been unable to find one! Or, you may have heard that you are not supposed to can on a glass or ceramic stove top.  Here's what I've found out from the manufacturers:

One of my suppliers asked a stove manufacturer as to why they were unable to find one. The stove manufacturer told they that on a glass/ceramic stove there is a sensor so that the heat can not go above a certain point thus breaking the top.

This sensor does not allow the burner to maintain an even temperature high enough for a canner to work safely. By fluctuating the temperature the bacteria is not eliminated in the canning process. Unfortunately this is not something the salesmen will tell the customer when they are buying the stove and probably many of them are unaware of this.

A flat-bottomed canner alone would not solve this problem for all stovetops.  If yours has the sensor, the heat will still fluctuate and it won't get hot enough to get the big canner full of water to a full boil. If can can confirm with your stove's maker or the store where you bought it that a flat-bottomed canner is okay, there here's a great one, made of stainless steel, so it should last a lifetime - it would also make a great pot to cook applesauce.

Another problem is that canners that exceed the burner diameter by more than 1 inch can trap and reflect heat to surfaces of the stove that are not intended to get that hot, and thus crack the stove top.

 If you have a ceramic or glass stovetop and still have the manual, look it up there.  If you will write me with the make, model and and specific warnings in the manual about canning, I'll add that to the bottom of this page, as a resource.

What to do?

Now, having said all this, not ALL glass and ceramic stoves are identical in every respect, so it is always possible that yours is designed differently or behaves differently from the description above. But there are enough stories of cracked stovetops to suggest that regardless, an alternative might be prudent, unless you're sure it is compatible with your stove!

So, what can you do? Here is a simple solution: buy a simple and inexpensive propane campstove, an electric burner (shown below) or use an outdoor propane burner and you can use ANY canner with it.  Plus, the propane burners may come in handy when you have a lot of cooking to do, during a power outage or when you need and extra burner!  One big advantage to using a gas stove outside, is: there's no mess to clean up!  

I also just received this tip from a visitor: she puts a wire rack (like a cookie rack) on the stove and sets her canner on that.  That prevent glass stovetop form heating up too much that it shuts itself off. I don't think my cookie cooling racks would support the weight of my canner, but it's an idea, if you want to try it.  I haven't confirmed with the manufacturers that there isn't some other problem with this approach, so use caution if you decide to try it.  If you do, please let me know how well it works!

Electric burners

How to choose an electric burner? I look for a robust design and the highest wattage I can find.  A single 1000 watt burner doesn't do it. A canner holds around 16 quarts of water, so it takes a lot of heat to get that boiling.  I've found that one 1300 watt burner will get the average canner boiling, but it takes a while.  So... to speed it up, I got a second burner, put it on the counter, right next to the first  and put the canner on top, straddling both burns - and THAT worked like a charm! 

Gas stoves

Gas grills, turkey fryers, large camping stoves all make excellent outdoor alternatives.  Of course there are two keys: make sure it has enough oomph (measured in BTU's) and that it is stable and won't tip over.

I've found any turkey fryer, most gas grills and the camping stoves below work fine. On rainy days I use the camping stove indoors (after taking precautions to open some windows, locate it on a flameproof surface (granite counter top, away from anything flammable, where children can't reach it, never leave it unattended, etc.)

See below for some camping stoves I've tried and used for canning.

Recommendations:

Here's a summary of what definitely works, in my order of preference:

  1. The Coleman camping stove (Coleman 2 Burner Propane Grill /Stove) is perfect! It can heat a canner in no time, and folds up neatly for storage. The canner fits easily on the grill portion. This is, in my opinion, the BEST solution. And, of course you can use it for camping and tailgating parties!
  2. The outdoor gas cooker - great in nice weather, or in open, but roofed area, like screen porch, open garage, etc.!
  3. A gas camping burner or countertop propane stoves with a low, stable profile can be a great spare high-power burner. But if you do a lot of canning, the outdoor cooker would be cheaper to operate, unless you use the converter to hook up tp a 20 lb tank..
  4. One double burner unit. Lots of power, but it can be tricky to get some canners (the tall narrow ones) to balance and be stable on them)
  5. Two 1300 watt burners - if you want to stay indoors - two of these, side by side will work!
  6. Two 1000 watt or greater burners, side by side - since you can move them around it is both a plus and a negative - you can position them to be stable, but perhaps not a close together as the double unit.

And you can find a wide variety of water bath canners and other canning supplies on this page

 


Canning stove alternatives

To find out more about a stove (with no obligation to buy), just click on any of the links in the Amazon picture boxes below:
 

Coleman 2 Burner Propane Grill Stove

This works very well  You'll need 2 or 3 of the small green cylinders for a day's canning (see left)

Product Description
Fully adjustable cooking power up to 10,000 BTUs per burner. Large control knobs positioned in front for easy access. PerfectFlow(TM) ensures consistent fuel output, regardless of weather, altitude or fuel level. Durable enamel-painted steel case and aluminized cooking surface for easy cleaning. Heavy-duty removable chrome cooking grate and non-stick cast-aluminum grill grate. Folding WindBlock(TM) system doubles as convenient side shelves. Burn time: 4.5 hours on one 16.4-ounce propane cylinders (sold separately) - (Note: these are the green 10 inch tall cylinders so commonly sold, shown attached in the photo of the blue unit). Coleman lifetime limited warranty.

Blake: I have an earlier version of this, and as you can see from the photos at left.  All versions easily accommodates a large water bath canner OR a pressure canner. I use it for canning, camping, and when the power goes out!  Each model puts out 10,000 btu per burner (20,000, total per stove). I recommend the versions withOUT the griddle, as you will be sure the burners are the same height!

Mr.Heater 12-Foot Hose and LP Regulator Make Portable Propane Equipment Easier to Use

Mr.Heater 12-Foot Hose and LP Regulator Make Portable Propane Equipment Easier to Use

This extension hose with regulator makes it easy to connect your portable propane stove to a 20 lb propane tank (the same one your outdoor gas grill uses.  This makes it MUCH cheaper to use your camping stove as an auxiliary stove to speed your canning!

 

 


STANSPORT 5 Foot Propane Hose and Regulator Assembly

This allows you to connect a 20 lb propane tank to the portable propane stoves - much cheaper to operate,

Features

  • Ideal for use with Coleman and Stansport propane stoves
  • 75,000 BTU capacity
  • 1/2 PSI output
  • 11" WC pressure setting, Regulator, 5'

 

Bayou Classic Single Gas Burner

Perfect for canning! It's ideal!  And of course, you can use it for a crawfish boil, a turkey fryer and, if you get a 55 gallon drum, cooking your mother-in-law*

(* - the last option void where prohibited by law)

  • 13 in. Tall Heavy Duty Steel Frame
  • Large 16 in. x 16 in. Cooking Surface
  • Accommodates any size Stockpot
  • UL Listed 29 in. Hose, Regulator, Valve Assembly
  • 10 PSI Regulator
  • For outdoor use!
  • This one has an additional use: I put a standard Weber charcoal smoker on top of it (omitting the smoker's base) and use it as a gas-fired smoker - makes smoking and BBQ EASY! And of course, you can put a large pot on it and use it as a canner, turkey fryer, outdoor stew pot, crawfish boil, etc.
  • Hooks up to any standard propane tank.
 

Waring Pro Burner

I still think you'd want two of these, side by side, under the canner.

Features:

  • 1300-watt portable single burner provides extra heating options (part of their ad says "900 watts", but that is an error - it's 1300!) That's enough to keep the canner boiling, but it is slow to heat up.
  • Durable cast-iron plate heats up quickly and ensures stable heat retention
  • Adjustable thermostat; "on" and "ready" indicator lights
  • Brushed stainless-steel housing; non-slip rubber feet; low-silhouette design
  • Measures 10-3/4 by 11-1/2 by 4 inches; 1-year limited warranty
  • Everyone knows Waring's quality

 

'Big Bertha' 13" Propane Stove Cook Top - 30,000 BTU - Electric Start

I'm going to get one of these to try - it looks perfect for those long canning days or when you have a lot of cooking to do and not enough burners on your stove.

Features:

  • Extra-large propane stove burner for over-sized cooking and heating jobs
  • 13" diameter with 9"-diameter burner; produces up to 30,000 BTU with regular propane gas
  • Heavy-duty cast-iron with durable, easy-clean baked enamel finish; stable support for big pots
  •  Infinitely adjustable heat with built-in piezo-electric start; 24"-length, 4.5"H, 15 lbs
  •  72"-length 5/8" outside diameter gas hose with regulator and brass fitting for standard propane tank


 

Propane counter top stove 

Portable Propane Gas Stove 1 Single Burner Range BBQ

Features
  • New & Sealed
  • 18,000 BTU
  • Made of Heavy Duty Stainless Steel Construction
  • Includes Hose & Regulator
  • High Pressure, High Temperature Resistant 9mm Hose
Portable Propane Gas Stove 2 Double Burner Range BBQ

Portable Propane Gas Stove 2 Double Burner Range BBQ

Features
  • New & Sealed
  • 12000 & 15000 BTU burners
  • Piezo Starter for Quick & Safe Ignition
  • Knob Controls Ignition & Gas Control
  • Specified to work with Standard Propane Tanks
  • Made of Heavy Duty Stainless Steel Construction
  • Includes Hose & Regulator
  • High Pressure, High Temperature Resistant 9mm Hose

 

Waring Pro Double Burner

I haven't tried this one, but it looks like the single unit above, plus a smaller 500 watt burner close by it. They look closer together than the Rival double unit below.

Features:

  • 1800-watt portable double burner with large and small heating plates
  • Durable cast-iron plates heat up quickly and ensure stable heat retention
  • Individual adjustable thermostats; separate "on" and "ready" indicator lights
  • Brushed stainless-steel housing; non-slip rubber feet; low-silhouette design
  • Measures 19-1/2 by 11-1/2 by 4 inches; 1-year limited warranty

Rival BD222 Double Burner Hot Plate

Features:

  • Independent controls for each burner
  • Heat resistant handles
  • Heating elements tilt for easy cleaning
  • Skid resistant feet

The units have a bit of space between them, so your canner will probably be halfway on each - which will still get plenty of heat, but you might need to brace it with another pot, brick, etc.

 

Toastmaster 6431 Eclipse Single Burner

Features:

Durable metal housing
bulletMeasures 10-1/2 inches wide and 10 inches deep
bulletCompact design perfect for buffet, dining table, office, workshop
bulletEasy-cleaning sealed, solid heating disk 7-1/2 inches in diameter
bullet1000 watts, 6-setting thermostat

 

Proctor-Silex Fifth Burner

Features:

9-inch-diameter hot plate fits in small kitchen spaces
bulletLimited one-year warranty
bulletSpiral heating element; chrome ring and drip pan
bulletAdjustable temperature control with three settings
bulletHeating element tilts for easy cleaning

 

BroilKing PR-S1 Professional Single Burner Range

Features:

1100-watt single burner range Infinite heat adjustment with dial control UL-listed with a two-year warranty
bullet11-1/2 by 3-1/2 by 11-1/2 inches
bullet
bullet
bulletHigh-speed tubular element with a 5-1/2-inch diameter
bullet

 

Books

Canning books

Canning & Preserving for Dummies
by Karen Ward
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The Ball Blue Book of Preserving

This is THE book on canning!  My grandmother used this book when I was a child.  It tells you in simple instructions how to can almost anything; complete with recipes for jam, jellies, pickles, sauces, canning vegetables, meats, etc.  If it can be canned, this book likely tells you how! Click on the link below for more information and / or to buy (no obligation to buy)

Price $8.95  

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Complete Guide to Home Canning and Preserving

by United States Dept. of Agriculture

Practical, easy-to-follow guide contains virtually everything consumers need to know about home canning: how to select, prepare, and can fruits, vegetables, poultry, red meats and seafoods; how to preserve fruit spreads, fermented foods and pickled vegetables; how to prepare foods for special diets, and much more. Also includes scores of simply written recipes that even beginners can handle (smoked fish, turkey-tamale pie, chicken croquettes, more. It's the second book to get, after the Ball Guide. Click on the link below for more information and / or to buy (no obligation to buy)
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Guidance Specific to Certain Stoves.

These are submitted by visitors, so I can't independently verify them, but I have no reason to doubt them.  Here they are:

  • Kenmore glass-top stove, model #911.95361592. The manual says: "Water-bath or pressure canners and large diameter pots extending more than 1" beyond the edge of the cooktop zones may be used when canning. This is because the temperature needed to boil water is not harmful to the surfaces surrounding the cooktop zones. However, do not use large diameter canners, pots or pans for anything other than boiling water.
    OBSERVE THE FOLLOWING POINTS WHEN CANNING:
    1. Be sure the canner is centered over the zones.
    2. Make sure the canner is flat on the bottom.
    3. Use recipes and procedures from reputable sources. These are available from manufacturers such as Ball and Kerr and the Department of Agriculture Extension Service.
    4. Use caution while canning, to prevent burns from steam or heat.
  • GE flat top range Model JS998B0H1BB (the ending BB is for black exterior, SS is for stainless steel exterior, W for white, etc) Serial DG284018Q.
    The manual says the same thing as the Kenmore model on your web page. You can use large flat bottom canners on it because the boiling water temp will not harm the surrounding cooktop surface. Do not use a large diameter pot (overhangs the burner surface by more than an inch) to boil anything but water though!!!"
  • Kitchenaid flat glass stove - A visitor writes on October 12, 2009: "I have a KitchenAid flat glass stove and have been canning on it for several years. Yes the heat does cycle on and off but that doesn't prevent me from maintaining a full rolling boil in a large kettle. Mine is pretty flat on the bottom, not a real "canner". I also use a Presto Pressure Canner with little problem. It does need to be watched throughout the process to make sure the pressure stays high enough but I think this would be true of any electric stove. As long as I watch it and make slight adjustments occasionally (2-3 times in a 20 minute canning process) it stays right on pressure. Id look up the manual but I have an enormous drawer full of appliance manuals so...there you go. I did get it at a Sears."
  • LG Electric Range (glass top) model LRE30757sw/sb/st According to the manual: Make sure canner is flat on the bottom. Base must not be more than 1 inch larger than element.
  • Maytag, Model MER5770BAW Electric Range:  - "Do not use non-flat specialty items that are oversized or uneven such as round bottom woks, rippled bottom and/or oversized canners and griddles." Baking rack between the surface and the canner: "Never place a trivet or wok ring between the surface and pan. These items can mark or etch the top." .
  • Whirlpool Gold GR399LXGB ceramic top range - A visitor writes on August 11, 2009: "Regarding flat cooktops: I have yet to can on it. I just received my Ball Basic Canning Kit and unfortunately, it has a ridged bottom pan. The site I purchased it from didn't mention that. I may try it anyway, just to see. Here is what my stove manual says about canning (note the last section about having a "canning kit for coil models" installed): Home canning information To protect your range: • Use flat-bottomed canners on all types of cooktops, especially ceramic glass. Canners with rippled or ridged bottoms do not allow good contact with the surface. • Center the canner over the largest surface cooking area. Do not extend more than one inch outside the surface cooking area. Large diameter canners/pans, if not centered correctly, trap heat and can cause damage to the cooktop. • Do not place your canner on two surface cooking areas at the same time. •The type of material the canner is made of determines the length of heating time. Refer to the “Characteristics of cookware materials” chart later in this section for more information. •When canning for long periods of time, allow elements and the surrounding surfaces to cool down. 1" 1" Surface Pan cooking area •Alternate use of the surface cooking areas between batches or prepare small batches at a time. •Start with hot water, cover with a lid, and bring to a boil; then reduce heat to maintain a boil or required pressure levels in a pressure canner. •On coil element model, keep your reflector bowls clean so that they will always reflect heat well. •For up-to-date information on canning, contact your local U.S. Government Agricultural Department Extension Office or companies who manufacture home canning products. Optional canning kit (Coil element model) Most water-bath or pressure canners have large diameters. If you do canning with them at high heat settings for long periods of time, you can shorten the life of regular coil elements. This can also damage the cooktop. If you plan to use the cooktop for canning, we recommend the installation of a Canning Kit. Order the kit (Part No. 242905) from your Whirlpool dealer or authorized Whirlpool service company."

 



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